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How Sort Of Not To Pick Up Girls On The Subway
I was out on a Saturday night at some lame club my friend dragged me too. It was so loud I couldn’t hear anything and I had trouble believing that people go to clubs to meet people. (Maybe I’m just getting old.) I approached two different girls but it was so hard to maintain conversations that they just died out.
I was still in the mood to talk to girls on my way home since I couldn’t do it at the club, so when I went down the escalator and saw a pretty girl standing alone I had to do something. I couldn’t have made it more obvious that I was going to talk to her when I positioned myself beside her, but there was no “smooth” way of bypassing less empty spots to stand next to her. (In fact there is no evidence that making a smooth approach increases your odds of success.)
I waited no more than 5 seconds. Any longer and you just start to psych yourself out. She was in what seemed to be gym shorts so said, “It doesn’t seem like you went out tonight.”
“Actually I did but I changed so I wanted look like a whore on the way home.”
Now that’s called “giving encouragement,” where the girl gives a rich answer that lets me take it all sorts of places. My next comments were about the weekend being amateur hour and the horrible club I just came from. She took out a piece of gum and I asked for a piece.
The train came and she went in first. I was very casual about the whole thing. There were no distractions like in a bar so there is less of that urgency to fill every silence. Once inside the train I sat near her and since she wasn’t going anywhere there was no worry of her walking away.
She had a smart ass sense of humor so it was easy to tease her, about her young age and the mosquito bites on her legs. I jokingly asked if she was “intimidated to be talking to an older man,” one of my favorite lines.
I asked her what stop she gets off and since it was one away I decided to go for the number. Nine times out of ten, based on the fun conversation we had, I’m getting a number. In fact I thought the number was such a sure thing that I was already thinking of logistics on how to get out this college girl who doesn’t have a car.
I told her we should hang out for a drink and her reply was, “Haha no.” She laughed at me. There was other passengers around and they saw all this, though they did not make a noise.
I said, “Wow, well, you could have lied and said you had a boyfriend.”
“Well I do have a boyfriend, blah blah blah.” Take a few seconds to think about a girl who would put down a guy instead of telling the truth. With her smart ass personality I guess I wasn’t too surprised.
The stop came and I smiled and told her to have a good night. There’s no point in getting upset, especially since this approach will make it easier for me to do more subway approaches. After a few minutes the burn of her rejection in front of a small crowd wore off and I felt fine. Now I’m more motivated to chat up girls on the subway since I know the odds are way in my favor. 98% of guys in DC never even get up to the point of asking a girl for their number on the subway.
There are two types of guys: those who let rejection get them down and those who use it as fuel to feed the fire. I’m the latter, because I know that part of the game is a numbers game. For every couple rejections there is a nice success. If you stop at a rejection then you stopped too soon.
Having this belief is the reason why I was able to amass such a large amount of experience that led to the writing of Bang, where all the hundreds of approaches I made led to so much success that I was able to pick out the patterns and distill my knowledge into a practical guide. My book makes your learning curve shorter than mine. Click here to learn more.
Quick & Effective Way To Isolate Her At A Bar
Most of the time at a bar or club the girl you approach will help you isolate herself from her cockblocking friends. She’ll let them go off to another part of the venue or the bathroom and stick with you. But sometimes this doesn’t happen. If they are hanging on her and you sense a moment to strike, try this simple yet effective isolation move:
“How about you come to the bar with me so I can get a drink…”
If the club is especially crowded, leave your hand out for her to grab. Once you get the drink, offer her a sip, but DO NOT buy her a drink. Linger at the bar, put your arm on her waist, and make a move before your drink is done. It’s as easy as I describe because if she allows herself to be isolated in this way she is ready to make out with you.
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Top 8 Pick Up Artist Sites
One of the more active pick up sites on the internet with contributions from several gurus, including Paul Janka and Dave Wygant. Usually one of the first to post about community controversy, like the most recent of Mystery’s lawsuits. Features a large amount of product reviews and also a budding forum. RSS subscribers receive a free ebook about inner game.
2. TSB Mag
First a pick up site, TSB has transformed into a full-fledged mens magazine with dating, sex, and fashion tips along with celebrity photo spreads and weekly radio podcasts. The founders take a more balanced approach to pick up with a focus on being a well-rounded man instead of just an approach monkey. They teach in person with their Mansformation seminar in the Dominican Republic.
3. Sarge Nation
The pick up artist’s answer to Digg. Anyone can submit links and those that get enough votes (usually three), make it to the front page. Here you tend to get exposed to a lot of good content from smaller sites that you wouldn’t normally see from the big one’s. Also has a blog with instructional videos.
Probably the oldest pick up site still running, Fast Seduction is bursting with content. The front page alone has a hundred links and it’s hard to know where to start, with enough information that will make your head spin. Start with the Player Guide and then work your way over the mASF, which replaced the alt.seduction.fast newsgroups on usenet. Some say the content here is dated but you’ll still pick up plenty of good tips.
5. E-Seduce
Arguably the most controversial pick up site. Mack Tight makes almost daily jabs at problems he sees in the community with gurus who attempt to fleece young man or give flat-out bad advice. Most recently he made fun of the sales pitch of a guru who tried to use NLP to increase sales. He is not shy to steer people away from products that he feels doesn’t live up to the hype.
Yummy picked up The Game by Neil Strauss over a year ago and has since dived headfirst into pick up, using his blog as a place to share resources he’s found and stories detailing his approach attempts in excruciating detail. His up-to-date blogroll alone is worth a visit (Yummy has compiled a list of over twenty forums).
Similar to Yummy’s blog but more natural with less focus on techniques and more on interesting story telling. Savage is a good writer who whips themes around his posts instead of just spitting them out there. Start with his most popular posts on the right which has a listing of the top 25 pick up artists.
8. Thundercat’s Seduction Lair
One of the first pick up blogs that reads more like a cheesy soap opera than a good resource, Thundercat’s Seduction Lair focus was highlighting fights between gurus from competing camps, including the author’s own beef with Ross Jeffries. The content has mellowed the past year and is not as frequently updated, but is still worth a visit once every blue moon to relive the seduction community’s glory days.